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VOA News - US, Iran Hold Rare Bilateral Meeting: "A top Israeli official dismissed the talks as futile. Vice Prime Minister Silvan Shalom told reporters in Jerusalem the discussions are a 'waste of time.'"

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How can Israel say such a thing? Easy, it's true. People in that region of the world don't do anything of their volition unless it's to cause trouble elsewhere. If you want them to do something for the good of the region or to comply with international standards or to not cause trouble, then you have to speak with military action, period.

Take Iraq. We talked and talked and they didn't do jack shit about giving us the information we requested or allowing nuclear inspectors until we had already placed the force over there. Saddam simply acted too late to save his skin. Now, we have Amahdinadirkajihad in Iran, who is doing the same thing Saddam did. However, he doesn't believe the USA will respond militarily... umm, neither did Saddam, neither did Kaddafi, neither did Hitler, neither did Japan, so on and so forth.

It's amazing really how these countries continually underestimate the USA's capacity to go abroad and kick some ass. Sure, we have our anti-war protesters and all that crap, but there's a tipping point. And once that point is passed, then there is no stopping us. I don't think Iran has passed it yet, but they probably will, and we'll have to join forces with a bunch of other nations, except Israel because that would be politically incorrect in that region, to bring about change in Iran that Iranians can't seem to bring themselves.

Iran has time of course to change, but will they? I think it would take a coup of sorts to do so. The real power seems to be with their Military. Yeah, supposedly it's the Supreme Leader, aka Ayatollah Khomenei, but come on, he sure seems like he's a puppet.

So here we go again, much like Pak not that long ago, Iran has no choice, it will have to change. Option 1 is a small change, allow unfettered access to nuclear inspectors. Option 2 is a huge change, get your ass handed to you by military force. And it doesn't matter whether Iran really does want peaceful nuclear energy, remember Weapons of Mass Destruction? All we need is probable cause to invade, nothing more.

The risk of Iran making nuclear weapons is alarming enough to invade, without a doubt. They support terrorist groups... remember? Do you think we are going to let a country develop a nuclear device so that they can give it Hezbolla? Hell no. That would be the beginning of a new, much bigger war, where a lot more people would get killed than if we just took out Iran in a timely manner. Insurgency is bad, yes, but distributing nuclear warheads makes dealing with an insurgency very acceptable to those who can realize what the alternative would have been.

If Israel sees an imminent threat, of course, then they'll probably take their own action. Which is option 3 I guess (get ass kicked by Israel). That would be a huge embarrassment for Iran, I would think. Yet, I believe Israel has the capability and certainly the moral imperative to defeat those who have publicly called for the extermination of Israel.

So yes, discussions are a waste of time because everything that can be said, has been. Iran has taken the vow of pursuing nuclear technology and will continue to say that it is only for peaceful purposes, while launching missiles, calling for the destruction of Israel, refusing inspectors, and building secret nuclear facilities. 'nuff said.

However, this time, unless Israel acts first, the US will wait for Europe to cough up resources. No more hiding behind the USA, it's time for Europe to step up to the plate and place a significant force and significant money to the cause. We've spent plenty, and have sent plenty to Afghanistan and Iraq, time for Europe to either bring it, or STFU.

Of course, if they STFU and decide they don't care if Iran has nuclear weapons, then it'll be just the USA and Israel... which is fine by me.